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[MattXG]

As per WPcentral.


This would be gigantic...

[IRJB]

That should push Windows Phone past 2% market share! Holy fucking shit!

[STFUMAN]

2%? You mad generous, mayne. 1.5 tops.

http://www.phonearen...s-Phone_id26304

[MattXG]

I pity you, STFUMAN. You are an ignorant boob. I have no doubt you've never even held a windows phone in your hands.

I own an andriod tablet, several of my friends own andriod phones and I own a windows phone and windows phone is just so much smoother, stable, and well thought out. Andriod is such a crapshoot and its whole setup is just sloppy. Its like some nerds from the 80's came up with the file management system on my tablet.

I guess it works but its much the same way that you can load Windows 95 on a computer today and it would still work but shouldn't we expect more in 2012?

I have no doubt in my mind Windows 8 will be a far, far superior user experience on a tablet than is Andriod simply by comparing my Windows Phone to these Andriod devices.

[Meegie]

lumia 900, right? whats so great about it? after i saw that it was a single core i stopped looking at it.

[MattXG]

Meegie, on 26 January 2012 - 10:59 PM, said:

lumia 900, right? whats so great about it? after i saw that it was a single core i stopped looking at it.

Microsoft's hardware acceleation is like alchemy apparently. I see Google is claiming Andriod has hardware acceleration with Andriod 3.0 but I'm running 3.2 and it really is no match to the smoothness of WP.

[MattXG]

Here's my file management on my Andriod tablet. I mean WTF?

Functional, yes, but jesus christ...

Furthermore, the browser craps out ALL the fucking time. Downloaded Opera Mini and Dolphin to solve that problem. People would be heading to Microsoft HQ with pitch-forks and torches if they released something this unpolished.

Edited by MattXG, 26 January 2012 - 11:24 PM.

[ralexand]

This will be my next phone.

[rastalant]

Too little to late andriod all day. OF course apple. Apple and andriod has too much market share for them to do any major damage.

Edited by rastalant, 27 January 2012 - 02:32 AM.

[tyrone]

MattXG, on 26 January 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Here's my file management on my Andriod tablet. I mean WTF?

Functional, yes, but jesus christ...

Furthermore, the browser craps out ALL the fucking time. Downloaded Opera Mini and Dolphin to solve that problem. People would be heading to Microsoft HQ with pitch-forks and torches if they released something this unpolished.

Does any of WP7 even HAVE file managment? It's one of the things I love about Android.

Android is truly Windows on a phone, which is what I always wanted. I dont know wtf WP7 is.

[rastalant]

Andriod is much better.

[r0t]

rastalant, on 27 January 2012 - 02:25 AM, said:

Too little to late andriod all day. OF course apple. Apple and andriod has too much market share for them to do any major damage.

You do realize that Blackberry and Palm fanboys said the same thing about Apple and Android five years ago, right. Consumers get bored and move on to the next best thing.

[rastalant]

True but apple came up with some innovative with iphone and it was never done with a phone. MS/nokia has to bring something new to the market. android is open source platform. What is window phone going to bring new to the market that andriod and iphone has not already done yet.

Edited by rastalant, 27 January 2012 - 04:13 AM.

[Draikin]

unified kernel/interface/programming tools across 1 billion devices.

[rooter]

I dunno, my ICS Android phone is smooth as fuck and destroys any shitty WP7 device.

[STFUMAN]

MattXG, on 26 January 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

Microsoft's hardware acceleation is like alchemy apparently. I see Google is claiming Andriod has hardware acceleration with Andriod 3.0 but I'm running 3.2 and it really is no match to the smoothness of WP.

4.0 dude, 4.0. There is an option in the official firmware.

[MattXG]

STFUMAN, on 27 January 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

4.0 dude, 4.0. There is an option in the official firmware.

Will my tablet be able to upgrade to 4.0?

Another sweet feature exclusive to Andriod

[STFUMAN]

MattXG, on 26 January 2012 - 10:54 PM, said:

I pity you, STFUMAN. You are an ignorant boob. I have no doubt you've never even held a windows phone in your hands.

My GF mom's got a Lumia 800, because she works for Deutsche Telekom (T-Mobile) and was talked into it for free with a new contract by the company. That's how desperate they are to sell. It's a gorgeous little piece of industrial looking hardware, beautiful flawless display, smooth...but nobody likes the UI. And by far not everyone gets it. I don't do as well, it's just way too sterile, different yet no personality for the user.

I don't know whether your tablet will get ICS. It probably will if it's not a shithole OEM. The first ones like Xoom did/are up be updated.

"You do realize that Blackberry and Palm fanboys said the same thing about Apple and Android five years ago, right. Consumers get bored and move on to the next best thing."

You do realize that not only have Apple and Android taken these guys' (and WM's) marketshare, but did expand the market hundredfold, made smartphones a must have (as well as financially accessible) for the casual user and carry a name? So much mouth propaganda worldwide. Windows is a PC household name, but a ??? in the mobile space and Microsoft simply struggles to find an entrance. Their best bet is to fill Blackberry's shoes in the corporate business by having a perfect synergy between Windows products and their services.

[Liquid]

IRJB, on 26 January 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

That should push Windows Phone past 2% market share! Holy fucking shit!

It could go as high as 2.2!

[MattXG]

STFUMAN, on 27 January 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

My GF mom's got a Lumia 800, because she works for Deutsche Telekom (T-Mobile) and was talked into it for free with a new contract by the company. That's how desperate they are to sell. It's a gorgeous little piece of industrial looking hardware, beautiful flawless display, smooth...but nobody likes the UI. And by far not everyone gets it. I don't do as well, it's just way too sterile, different yet no personality for the user.

I don't know whether your tablet will get ICS. It probably will if it's not a shithole OEM. The first ones like Xoom did/are up be updated.

"You do realize that Blackberry and Palm fanboys said the same thing about Apple and Android five years ago, right. Consumers get bored and move on to the next best thing."

You do realize that not only have Apple and Android taken these guys' (and WM's) marketshare, but did expand the market hundredfold, made smartphones a must have (as well as financially accessible) for the casual user and carry a name? So much mouth propaganda worldwide. Windows is a PC household name, but a ??? in the mobile space and Microsoft simply struggles to find an entrance. Their best bet is to fill Blackberry's shoes in the corporate business by having a perfect synergy between Windows products and their services.

I'll give Apple respect but Android is the cheap knockoff of iOS. It was basically the only alternative. Its success has nothing to do with its quality; of this, I'm sure.

Also, some highend Samsungs aren't getting 4.0 so guess again!

[STFUMAN]

Samsung is just that way...they throw a billion phones to the market and the recent top dogs are their only priority. The ones who want can have ICS on their Galaxy S since November. Other companies do learn...the first Droid did get 2.3, Xoom is getting 4.0. Sony Ericsson went from no support at all to updating their whole line-up in a timely fashion and plan.
Now will Tango cheap-ass phones get or even profit from Apollo update - which apparently will be about LTE, dual-core support and 720p?. We'll see. That is the price of competitors 1-upping each other by customizing and offering all form and price factors. Such is the mess Google will have to sort out. All I know is that my SGS2 is/runs flawless, more so with ICS.

[MattXG]

As for being "too sterile" I assume you are referring to the fact you can't choose your own wallpaper, which you would then completely cover up with Androids absolutely hideous icons. You wann talk sterile...these Android icons

WP's apps are much more appealing in-app than any of my standard Android apps.

[STFUMAN]

MattXG, on 27 January 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

As for being "too sterile" I assume you are referring to the fact you can't choose your own wallpaper, which you would then completely cover up with Androids absolutely hideous icons. You wann talk sterile...these Android icons

WP's apps are much more appealing in-app than any of my standard Android apps.

You know what they say about opinions and taste. I adorethe consistency in Windows's phones UI (not even iOS can this), but I never had a problem with managing Desktops and gladly carry on to do so on my cellphone. Most people probably do as well. WP7 is too much text and a 2 color-contrast thingy. You know what I mean? Waste of space.
And you don't have to place even a single icon. Nothing. And there are widgets, not only are widgets comparable to live tiles, they are maybe superior - you can see a whole lot information (can even infinitely scroll IN them) without going into the app, they refresh themselves as often as you want, can contain toggles and what not.
I do get where your hate for Android is coming from...having ICS before my eyes is giving me confidence, there is a sense of consistency and class, some kind of easiness in there now.

Edited by STFUMAN, 27 January 2012 - 01:06 PM.

[MattXG]

Another thing, why did Google bother with ChromeOS? I can't wait to sell this tablet and get a Win8 Ultrabook/tablet hybrid. To me, that'll be like the pinnacle of computing. Great mobility but also great productivity. Tablets are cool to surf the web with but you can't really be productive with them on the scale of a laptop. Soon that will change though.

Now what would El Goog put on a ultrabook? ChromeOS or Android? One is going to die.

[STFUMAN]

Third world laptops with low specs...everything in the browser, small requirements.

[STFUMAN]

The first german retailer to list Lumia 900 has it for 799 € unlocked. Holy shit expensive even if nearly as high.

-iPhone 4S 16GB - 651 €
- Galaxy S2 - <500 €
- Galaxy Note - ~550 €
- Motorola Razr <550
- Galaxy Nexus - ~550 €
- Lumia 800 <500 €

[MattXG]

Start at 6 minutes. Google better be planning something drastic because these will annihilate Android on tablets.

[r0t]

rastalant, on 27 January 2012 - 04:12 AM, said:

True but apple came up with some innovative with iphone and it was never done with a phone.

What was so innovative about it, other than making smartphones easier to use? Palm, Windows Mobile and Blackberry were the original smartphones.

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MS/nokia has to bring something new to the market. android is open source platform. What is window phone going to bring new to the market that andriod and iphone has not already done yet.

What's new about WP7 is that it's a happy medium between Apple's ugly, shitty-looking hardware and Google's ugly, shitty OS. Even iOS is looking long in the tooth. I don't own a Windows Phone. I own an iPhone and my wife owns an Android. When our contracts are up, we're moving to WP7 even if we have to kick Verizon to the curb to get a decent Windows Phone.

[r0t]

MattXG, on 27 January 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Start at 6 minutes. Google better be planning something drastic because these will annihilate Android on tablets.

Almost all of the tech world knows that once Windows 8 tablets come out, it will destroy Android tablets and will definitely give iPad a run for its money. The only caveat is that they need to be under $500 (consumer versions).

Edited by r0t, 27 January 2012 - 02:57 PM.

[r0t]

MattXG, on 27 January 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Another thing, why did Google bother with ChromeOS? I can't wait to sell this tablet and get a Win8 Ultrabook/tablet hybrid. To me, that'll be like the pinnacle of computing. Great mobility but also great productivity. Tablets are cool to surf the web with but you can't really be productive with them on the scale of a laptop. Soon that will change though.

Now what would El Goog put on a ultrabook? ChromeOS or Android? One is going to die.

Google is already conceding that ChromeOS is a failure and they will discontinue it.